Friday, October 23, 2020

Anarcy 3

Original thread.

@RangeRunner,  Barking at the wrong tree means that you do not reason? Because I'm not barking, I'm arguing.

Let me explain to you what "liberal" means. The word comes from "liberty", and it means a person who supports a government which maximizes individual freedom. Your "liberals" are Marxists, and they have nothing to do with freedom or reason.

Now, about whether anarchy can exist or not, how have you reached the conclusion that it can't? Have you read any book in your life, excepting the Bible?

You may want to read volume I of the "Open Society" by K. R. Popper, available online for free, to begin to comprehend the anarchic political regime of the ancient Athens.

Also, you may want to read and watch these:

Theory: http://mail001.blogspot.com/2011/03/open-society.html

Practice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDspeScGZrQ

Besides these arguments, I have to explain to you a very simple thing: you don't have the right to decide for me, you only have the right to decide for yourself. If you disagree with this simple statement, which itself renders anarchy as the only acceptable form of government, then we have a problem. Also, you may want to browse the Bill of Rights, which obviously supports my position. Maybe you try to impose your "understanding" of the Bible on me, or some other idiotic ideology. That would be a bad idea.

I have done my best to find a way to share this planet with other people in peace and prosperity, in a fair and decent fashion. Your answer is confusing at best.

Thursday, October 22, 2020

Anarchy 2



I never said that there should be no government. I said that there should be no hierarchy. I explained this above.

I never said that there should be no militia. I explained this above. I referred to The Bill of Rights. My arguments have been ignored.

Since the neighborhood watch team is comprised of all citizens living there, that is not cops. Cops were recruited by a far away government from poor people with no morals and they were accomplice in the robbery, as that very video clearly states.

I never said that the Council of the Elderly is immune to corruption. I am not arguing that anarchy is perfect, since that would mean that people are perfect, and that is a senseless idiocy. However, the Council of the Elderly is made up of 80 people in a town of 16000, and that means that the 80 people are closely controlled by citizens.

The neighborhood watch team is not going to rob their own family or neighbors, unless they are looking for deep trouble. See also the Theory.

"Why are you trying to convince us of this nonsense?"
I thought that you're worthy of a debate. 

Anarchy

Original thread. 

You describe the present situation in detail. The only thing the government makes is to create a monopoly on crime. The result is that people are not free and therefore they are not responsible. People remain infantile. This is then used by people like you to argue that people are unable to govern themselves and that they must be slaves.

You completely disregard my arguments above. I will repeat them here:

Theory: http://mail001.blogspot.com/2011/03/open-society.html

Practice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDspeScGZrQ

Let me simplify my argument for you:

1. Each person has its own head and arms and hands. Therefore each person can decide for itself and it can do whatever it has decided, within normal natural constraints defined, for example, by laws of physics.

2. We are made to live together in communities. We are wired for that. This is how humanity has lived for 200,000 years before the first empires emerged. In a sane community, where people have not been heavily traumatized since childhood, to become overwhelmed with fear and to lack compassion for other people, the neighbors would intervene.

3. In an atomized society, people higher in the social hierarchy will torture and kill people lower in hierarchy as they please. This is exactly what is going on today.

Now, you either read and answer my arguments at the "Theory" link, or you concede defeat.

And you either go and kill an owner and steal a house in Switzerland and / or Cheran, or at least you show me that the situation in those places is worse than in the US, Epstein included, or you concede defeat.

P.S. As our NWO controlled governments are killing us as we speak, whatever was left of your argument is no longer valid. 

Monday, June 08, 2020

Democracy vs. Totalitarianism

@doru, when a bottom up corporation excels then people will get confidence in the self governing models, right now its just a theory .

@Titanthinktank13,  You obviously confuse private production issues with public government issues.
This might provide a short introduction to the subject: http://mail001.blogspot.com/2011/03/open-society.html
 
Government must be controlled from bottom to the top to allow us to live. A top to bottom government looks like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1OZYoxaJ2Y
 
It is known that bottom to top governments do work very well. See ancient Athens and today's Cheran, also Switzerland and Sweden, to some extent.

When a democracy engages in large scale production, like war or some large industrial enterprise, which require large scale integration, then it is faced with the challenge of controlling those organizations, which, of course, must be top to bottom managed. If the democracy succeeds at that task, that is wonderful, if it fails, it is preferable to block the respective activity completely, rather than to fail under a suicidal totalitarian regime.

Thursday, March 05, 2020

Coronavirus for Agenda 21

https://www.infowars.com/time-to-debunk-the-skeptics-covid-19-has-a-death-rate-that-is-about-34-times-higher-than-the-flu/
Time To Debunk The Skeptics:
    "Skeptics" again.

COVID-19 Has A Death Rate That Is About 34 Times Higher Than The Flu
    How does he know?

This isn’t anything like the flu
    Just keep repeating it.

COVID-19 is an extremely deadly virus, and nobody should be trying to downplay the severity of this outbreak. 
    Call to censorship.

By now, you have probably heard a lot of people try to convince you that COVID-19 is not that dangerous because the flu has killed far more people this winter.
    I have.

And that is true.
    He contradicts himself.

But what they aren’t telling you is that the death rate from the flu is extremely low.
    He contradicts himself even more. If the flu kills few people, and coronavirus even fewer, then it kills few people.

Tens of thousands of Americans die from the flu each year, but if this coronavirus spreads all over the planet the death toll will be in the tens of millions.
    When you compare flu deaths in the USA to coronavirus deaths planet wise, coronavirus has more deaths ... according to his personal unexplained forecast.

This coronavirus outbreak is likely only in the very early stages, and if it becomes as widespread as the flu, it will become a public health crisis unlike anything we have ever faced in modern times.
    The flu already covers the planet, coronavirus is just beginning ... only that the winter is close to end, and warm countries aren't friendly to coronavirus: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019%E2%80%9320_coronavirus_outbreak_by_country_and_territory#Outbreak_in_map .

The W.H.O. continues it’s concern for policing language instead of containing the coronavirus pandemic.
    Censorship for lack of arguments.

On Tuesday, the World Health Organization announced that the global death rate for COVID-19 is now 3.4 percent…
    3% of reported cases have died. This literally means nothing. What is the percentage of reported cases out of the total population? The same in the case of flu. They don't tell. So the 3% figure means nothing.

I have a feeling that number will continue to go up, but for the purposes of this article let’s assume that number if accurate.
    We all have feelings. 3% means nothing.

As for the flu, the CDC says that there will be between 32 million and 45 million illnesses in the United States during this flu season, and somewhere between 18,000 and 46,000 deaths.
That means that the death rate from the flu this year will be about one-tenth of one percent.

    Finally numbers. 15% will have the flu, .1% of them will die.

So can we please stop with the comparisons between COVID-19 and the flu?
    No, we are just beginning. We still need the percentage of people infected with coronavirus out of the total population.

COVID-19 is at least 34 times more deadly, and experts are warning that up to 70 percent of the global population could ultimately catch the virus.
    This means that the real number of deaths in Wuhan, with a population of 8 million, is 8,000,000*.7*.03 = 168,000. This is 110,000 more than this estimate: https://beforeitsnews.com/earthquakes/2020/02/covid-19-chinese-billionaire-whistle-blower-claims-wuhan-coronavirus-death-toll-is-over-50000-2732967.html . Or the experts (technocrats) are lying again? Because the epidemic in Wuhan is already receding: https://www.davidicke.com/article/565171/china-closes-1st-pop-coronavirus-hospital-built-10-days-last-group-recovered-patients-discharged .
    I expect the reported coronavirus cases to have been only those with severe symptoms, so many of them (3%) have died. 70% could ultimately catch the virus, but few of them will show symptoms and few will die.

If that happens, we will see a death toll in the tens of millions at a minimum.
   
Here in the United States, the death rate is running well above 3.4 percent so far.  Out of 118 confirmed cases, nine victims have died so far…

I have a feeling that the death rate in the U.S. will go down once we start testing more people, but we will see.

    Yes, this is what I said.
    And I don't think that the government has the right to test anyone it wants.
    Also, he has contradictory feelings: I have a feeling that number will continue to go up. The death rate is 3%. He has a feeling that it will go up, and another feeling that it will go down when more people will be tested.

At this point, coronavirus clusters are starting to pop up all over the nation.  For example, the number of victims in Santa Clara County has now risen to 11…
    Victims meaning what? Many people have mild or no symptoms. Tests are not that accurate.

Over on the east coast, a newly confirmed case in New York City is making headlines.  Authorities are telling us that it is a “community spread case”, and this particular victim just happens to be a lawyer with a firm in midtown Manhattan…
    Be afraid, be very afraid!

Before he was finally diagnosed, was he spreading the virus to countless others in midtown Manhattan?

We shall see what happens in the coming days.

    ...

As I discussed yesterday, the U.S. has been much slower than other nations to conduct widespread testing for the virus, and it looks like that was a major mistake.

    Call for totalitarianism.

Down in South Florida, one woman was recently told by her doctor that she probably has COVID-19, but officials refused to test her for it…

As Dr. Matt McCarthy has said, this refusal to test probable patients is a national scandal.  There is no excuse for this sort of negligence, and it has the potential to create all sorts of problems.

At this point, fear is spreading like wildfire all over the nation.  Due to concerns about COVID-19, Twitter is asking “its entire workforce” to “work from home”…
    We are doomed.

Other companies are taking similar steps, and this will inevitably slow down the economy.

But this could be just the beginning.  If you can believe it, one NBA owner is actually saying that the NBA could eventually “ban fans” from games if things get bad enough…

    Which is, of course, Agenda 21: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZC0NOljRWQ .

I hope we don’t get there either.

Because once we start banning public gatherings, we won’t be able to go back to normal until this pandemic is over.

And sometimes pandemics can last for a very long time.  The Spanish Flu pandemic lasted for three years and killed tens of millions of people.  If what we are facing is similar, then all of our lives are about to change in a major way.

    Agenda 21 totalitarianism.

Sadly, some people are saying that if they get the virus they will actually purposely go into large crowds to try to spread it.  Here is one example…
    Divide and conquer. People should lose their minds out of fear. They should turn each other in to the police state.

How sick in the head do you have to be to say something like that?

We live at a time when hearts are growing very cold, and it is only going to get worse as time rolls along.

    You wish.

Hopefully by now most of my readers understand that we need to take COVID-19 very seriously.
    Yes they do.

This isn’t anything like the flu.  This is an extremely deadly virus that has the potential to kill millions of Americans.
    Or not, as you said. The death rate will go down once we start testing more people,

Let us continue to keep praying that this outbreak will eventually subside, but let us also continue to brace ourselves for a worst case scenario.
    Let's.

Let's face it: propaganda or bioweapons, deep government enterprises aren't better than shallow government enterprises.